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English, Filipino, Tagalog, Ilocano ania ti mayat nga medium of instruction? Part 2

Masecnan
2/18/2003 10:43:00 PM

Damagec manen a no anait macunatayo amin kakabsat ko ida.

Kastoy ti macuna ni Jose Dalisay nga pangulo ti English department ti U.P. :

All the King’s English
PENMAN by Butch Dalisay
The Philippine STAR 02/17/2003


As the chairperson of what could well be the country’s oldest and largest Department of English, I’ve been asked by a number of people what I thought of President Arroyo’s recent directive to restore English as our primary medium of instruction from the grades up. I suppose I was naturally expected to join the chorus of hosannas that greeted the President’s announcement, given the oft-perceived deterioration of proficiency in English among our youth.

Well, let me tell everyone that what I did, instead, was to be the first to sign a petition circulated by teachers of Filipino and writers in Filipino in our university asking the President to reconsider her decision.

I don’t know who put GMA up to it, but I’d have to say that while it’s undoubtedly a popular decision that will play well in many metropolitan households, it seems to me to have not been too well thought out, and that the President’s wiser option – for which she would still have scored the PR points her handlers might have been gunning for – should have been to order a comprehensive and scientific review of the effectiveness of our language teaching (in both English and Filipino) to establish what exactly needs to be done to improve our people’s language skills.

I have no doubt that our students’ English skills have declined. I still teach at the front lines, after all, and I encounter this every teaching day in my students’ writing: They don’t know their tenses, their singular subjects take plural verbs, they take one long torturous and tortured paragraph to say what a five-word sentence could have better put. Worse, the ideas they express tend to be confused and timid – with the language itself becoming an obstacle, rather than a help, to clearer and more effective self-expression.

My problem with the President’s prescription is that I think it’s a palliative that won’t do much to cure the real problems of Philippine education and of the Philippine economy, which we’ve simplistically lumped into the problem of bad English. We keep promoting this fantasy that the pervasive teaching and use of English will mean a robust economy, because then we can then funnel hordes of English-speaking graduates to the credit-card call centers, or what we like to hype up as the "new economy," in truth the sweatshops of the digital age.

If this is the best we can come up with for a vision of the Filipino future, then by all means let’s set ourselves to it with utter seriousness: Abolish the teaching of Filipino altogether, as that will only dissipate our time and our resources; let’s make it a crime to text in anything but letter-perfect English, to sing OPM songs, to post signs like "BAWAL ANG UMIHI DITO," and to speak English the way the Ilonggos do, where "boil" becomes "BO-wel" and "fascism" becomes "pa-SI-soom."

Our most critical problem area in primary education isn’t English: It’s science and math, the very skills we need to make that quantum leap forward from being a nation of mere texters to a nation of software designers and cell phone manufacturers, from being customer-service clerks to builders and owners of industries. If you think our English is atrocious, go take a look at the scores of Filipino students in global math competitions. In 1995, out of 41 countries that took part in the Third International Mathematics and Science Study, the Philippines ranked 38th in math and 40th in science. (Singapore topped both lists – and, yes, it speaks English, but what about close second- and third-placers Korea and Japan? And yes again, the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese are now learning English in droves – but only after the fact of their industrial achievements, and not before.)

I’m not putting people in the service trades down, and thank God they have that extra something – in this case English – to give them an edge over the competition, against the Thais and Indonesians and Bangladeshis who all want the same domestic’s job in Singapore or Hong Kong. They’re keeping our economy afloat, and we can’t thank them enough for their sacrifices. But, honestly, nobody dreams of being a DH or a welder in Kuwait, not if he or she can help it, or if there was only something better back home to do. These English-speaking OFWs are heroes only in that they’re saving our skin, but they’re victims otherwise of an educational and economic system that’s had its priorities all wrong.

And those priorities won’t be straightened out by forcing teachers who can barely write and speak passable English to teach kids who can barely understand what their teachers are saying. It doesn’t help, either, that the teaching of Filipino also leaves a lot to be desired. Much of the hostility to Filipino has to come from the fact that many teachers teach it like some dead and foreign language. (One of my friends’ kids had these instructions on his homework notebook: "Itala mo sa iyong kuwaderno…." And who writes those godawful planeside warnings, the ones that urge you to put on your "sinturong pangkaligtasan" when you get on your "sasakyang panghimpapawid"?) If we have any more money to spend on education – and after science and math – we should spend it at least equally on the teaching of Filipino as on the teaching of English.

We have to take this deterioration of language skills in the context of a general decline in cultural literacy and critical thinking; our children don’t read, so they don’t know how words look like on the page, and how they behave in sentences and paragraphs. They don’t even touch newspapers (where the English has also suffered badly, especially in the metro, provincial, and sports pages). There’s very little interest among young people in the events that control their lives – possibly because of a general sense of helplessness, or the absence of a moral or ideological focus in their existence, which even the snazziest cell phone can’t fill. Thus, they miss out on language’s humanizing function – the way it structures experience and suggests meaning, turning individuals into communities, and communities into individuals.

This isn’t something that we can or should just lay at the feet of our teachers; parents have a role to play as well. Thinking that language and language teachers alone should bear the burden of our hopes and our development can only lead to massive disappointment down the road. All the King’s English isn’t going to save us from our worst fantasies and illusions, one of which is to believe that we can talk our way – in English – to progress and nationhood.

On a personal note, I’ll admit that I wouldn’t be where I am without English, and all the years I put into studying it and using it in my work and art. This much I owe the language: That it has opened doors for me that sadly would have remained shut were I writing in Filipino. But I would be kidding you and shortchanging myself if I said that all this was as easy as learning English grammar, or affecting a Midwestern American accent. If the language were all it took, there wouldn’t be any dumb Yanks and poor Brits on the face of the earth; there wouldn’t be a George W. Bush.





Sungsungbat/Komentario

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ticticrobong
2/18/2003 11:13:00 PM
sadot nga agbasa dagiti pinoy ngamin. lalo dagiti obbing. ngem iti US kin Britain kit mahilig da nga agbasa pay lang lalo dagiti ubbing da. kitanyu ti success ti Harry Potter ket naadik dagiti obbing nga agbasa.
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ittip
2/18/2003 11:46:00 PM
tic2robong,
wen, dagiti ubbing a pinoy ti sadot nga agbasa! isunga ihublida ti english tapno madisiplinada manen nga agbasa, ammomon -- book reports, composition, kdp. sabali latta met ti science ken math. saan a mabalin nga ikompara dagita.
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siglat
2/20/2003 5:31:00 AM
kakabsat dipende met siguro ti panaka disiplina dagita ubing ta saan met amin nga pinoy nga ubing ket sadot nga agbasa!
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PnS
2/20/2003 7:20:00 AM
Kakabsat saan amin nga pinoy nga ubbing ket sadut da nga agbasa.
Ditoy ayan ko ket adu ti familya nga pinoy ditoy ket adda an da ti an-annak.
Ngem amin nga am -ammok nga ubbing ditoy ket nalalaing. Daytoy anak toy gayyem ko ket napan pay naki-Spelling B iti sabali nga state ket iso pay laeng ti top.
Ket adu ti ammok nga saan nga pinoy ket adda da la ngarud ti collge sen dida pay maisurat nga nalaing ti nagan da,sano no kasaom ida dida maiexpress ti saoda.Iso nga agbiag dagitoy annak tayo nga pinoy ditoy. nalalaingda
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lani
2/20/2003 7:29:00 AM
umanamongak ta kuna da Pns ken Siglat,nga saan amin nga pinoy nga ubbing ket sadot nga agbasa.no dadduma ket adda iti environment.no ni ubing ket ti kanayon nga kadkaduana ket dagitay ballog ket siyempre agbalin met nga ballog ket no ti pakaikuyoganna ket dagitay napasnek ket kasta met diay ubing isu nga sika met nga nagannak ket piliem met wenno obserbarem dagita pakikuykuyogan ta anak mo tapno sigurado nga adal ti sumrek diay ulona.
ti kunada man ket awan kano ti ipinanganak na bobo.
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ittip
2/20/2003 1:57:00 PM
siglat, lani, pns, kdp.
u-ubbing a taga 'diay ayantayo, kunak man laengen. kaadduan kaniada ti nasadut nga agbasa. reading, writing, and expressing one's self in english go hand in hand, ti panagkunak. pudno a no balyodong ti barkada, mairaman dagiti aannak tayon. peer pressure, kahit saan. kaspangarigan ag-test dan ti toefl wenno tse, karabasa ti maalada. nagngina pay met ti bayadan sakbay nga ag-test ti toefl wenno tse.
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erap
2/20/2003 5:47:00 PM
saanda a nasadut. dida kayat ti maawagan iti kunkunada a "nerd".
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al-alingaas
2/21/2003 6:20:00 AM
saan met laeng ket nga english ti pagbiagan. adalen met laeng ti english a ngem saaan nga isu ti ipangruna. husto ti adda iday ngato nga article no kayat ti dumur-as science ken mathematics ti ikkan ti attention.
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ittip
2/21/2003 11:26:00 AM
al-alingaas,
urayno science ken math, kasapulan met latta ti agbasa. agbasa ti ipatpatangkenko. english a ket sumaruno metten ta english ngarud ti kaaduan a libro ti science ken math.
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al-alingaas
2/22/2003 4:58:00 PM
wen aya ittip, ala ag-english tayo ngarud. ngem ti panagkunak nalalaing nga agbasa dagiti estudyante a Filipino iti English ngem dagitoy dadduma a puli, uray pay dagiti kaedadda ditoy America.
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al-alingaas
2/22/2003 4:58:00 PM
wen aya ittip, ala ag-english tayo ngarud. ngem ti panagkunak nalalaing nga agbasa dagiti estudyante a Filipino iti English ngem dagitoy dadduma a puli, uray pay dagiti kaedadda ditoy America.
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Al-alia
2/25/2003 10:33:00 PM
halos amin nga ubbing nga pinoy sadot nga agbasa. no agbasa da man ket dagitay cheap tagalog romance pocketbooks met ti basbasaen da. wenno saan ket bulgar wenno remate. wenno haan ket dagetay cheap tagalog fan or movie magazines lang ti basaen da.
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ittip
2/25/2003 11:02:00 PM
karekka, al-alia. malagipko, idi ubingkami, idiay baguio adu ti business nga agparenta ti komiks, hehe. ngem ti komiks idi ket ingles. adda pay dagiti komiks nga classics ti istoriada.
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al-alingaas
2/26/2003 5:36:00 AM
no siak a maysa educational met dayta komiks. adu ti nasurok dita. diak ammo ti agsao ti tagalog idi ngem gapu ti komiks adu ti abakekon uray taal na tagalog. dagidiay illustration met ti marvels komiks ti nakaadalak ti dadduma nga englishko.
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Al-alia
2/26/2003 8:18:00 AM
ittip, apay mano't tawenmon idi adda pay la Illustrated Classics a komiks a makitkitam?
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Carlo Magno
2/26/2003 3:56:00 PM
Idi agbasbasaak pay, Tagalog I - IV ti tawag ti asignatura. Sinukatan dagiti Mamasirib iti Pilipino I - IV idi agangay. Itan matawag manen iti FILIPINO. Ngem adu pay laeng ti mangawag iti Tagalog. FILIPINO ti nailian a lenguahetayo a saan ket a TAGALOG wenno PILIPINO.

No maipanggep kadagiti nagsasaritaan iti ngato, mabalin nga inyeg wenno naaringan dagiti ubbing iti agdama. Kitaentayo dagidi nagkauna, dagidi pinatanor ti pagadalan, panawen ti Amerikano ditoy Filipinas. Kalpasan a makatapos ti maysa nga estudiante iti Intermedia, mangisuron. Apay? Mabalin s basbassit ti asignatura (subjects) da idi ket naipamaysada iti agadal ken masagat dagiti estudiante.

Mayatak ti kuna ni Apo Dalisay, a maipangruna koma ti Math ken Science kadagiti pagadalan. Maadal koma a naimbag ti curriculum/curricula kadagiti pagadalan.
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Masecnan
2/27/2003 12:04:00 AM
Adda manen nakitac nga salaysay maypapan ditoy nga tapik. Adtoymanne aniat macuna yo cacabsat co ida?

Return to English?

A response to Pres. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s verbal directive to the Department of Education to “return English as primary medium of instruction”

We are disconcerted by the statements of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo regarding the intensified use of English as the primary medium of instruction in Philippine schools, and the serious implications on the education and lives of Filipinos. We would like to present other views on this issue of national importance.

First, the statement is an apparent misreading of the particular Constitutional provisions on the use of English and Filipino as the official languages of the Philippines. The Philippine Constitution, Article XIV, Section 6 provides: “Subject to provisions of law and as the Congress may deem appropriate, the Government shall take steps to initiate and sustain the use of Filipino as a medium of official communication and as language of instruction in the educational system.” The announcement of President Arroyo—“[the Constitution] specifies the use of Filipino as language of instruction, but it also specifies that this is subject to provisions of law and as may deem appropriate. Therefore, I am directing the Department of Education to return English as primary medium of instruction”—is a complete reversal of this provision. Instead of sustaining the forward development of Filipino as a tool for education, she bends the constitutional imperative to highlight the role of the English language for her “global competitiveness” program. Also, President Arroyo’s statement distorts the said provision some more. The aforementioned Section 6 already paves the way for the status of Filipino as the only official language of the Philippines; it is the abolition of English that needs the enactment of Congress at a time when the Filipino language has achieved the total recognition and function as the national language.

Second, the statement “the return of English” implies the primary status of Filipino as a medium of instruction. Again, this is not true. Except for Manuel Luis Quezon, the Philippines, from the American period to the present, had not been fortunate enough to have a President who supported the use of our very own national language in the schools and in official communication. When she said, “Some subjects, of course, will still be taught in Filipino,” it betrays her ignorance of the current status of Filipino, that it has a limited use in Philippine schools, being used only in Filipino and social studies subjects. The other school subjects—from English, Science, Mathematics, Vocational, and Physical Education—are all taught in English.

Third, the statement places President Arroyo in the same mold of Philippine presidents who implemented language policies in complete disregard of scientific and modern learning principles. One of these is that a child learns faster in his/her native tongue. Another is that a child easily learns a second language if he/she is already literate in the native language. These learning principles have been validated in experiments and studies even before the implementation of the bilingual policy in Philippine education. The Iloilo experiment in the 1960s showed that the Filipino youth learn faster and better in their native language. The EDCOM Report (1998) said, “Test results showed that the highest scores were obtained by those who studied science in their own language…like the Japanese and Korean children.”

In the light of these statements, we question the Arroyo administration’s development program that hews to the labor needs of the multinational market at the expense of the growth of local scientific and entrepreneurial endeavors. Instead of looking after foreign interests, the Arroyo administration should consider prioritizing Filipino needs and concerns.

We recommend that the Arroyo administration seriously consider the use of Filipino as the sole medium of instruction in the primary level of education. English can be introduced at the intermediate level. This is to effectively and democratically implement the true spirit of bilingual policy in Philippine education, as well as employ the optimum learning principle. Hong Kong and mainland China are currently implementing this method as their educators realize the educational efficacy of the use of the mother language. Such a system that emphasizes the role of the first language will produce students who are literate in Filipino and are very ready to learn in English. We suggest that we invest in the training and the retraining of our teachers. Our normal schools should get a bigger budget to invigorate the teaching profession. We should earnestly develop and produce textbooks written in Filipino to support the recommended national language program. We laud the admininistration’s commitment to build more schools, but a parallel support should be infused into the raising of the quality of education. And just as important, we must also recognize the role of the teachers in sustaining the ideals of quality education. Hence, their salaries should be increased to encourage them to stay in the country and not become domestic helpers or chambermaids abroad.



SANGFIL (Samahan ng mga Kolehiyo at Unibersidad sa Filipino)
PASATAF ( Pambansang Samahan at Tagapagtaguyod ng Filipino)
PSW (Pambansang Samahan sa Wika)
UMPIL (Unyon ng mga Manunulat sa Pilipinas)
PHILIPPINE NORMAL UNIVERSITY (Kagawaran ng Filipino)
UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES (Departamento ng Filipino, Department of Lingusitics)
ATENEO DE MANILA UNIVERSITY (Departamento ng Filipino)
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Al-alia
3/1/2003 5:17:00 AM
awan dakis na no nalaing ka iti inglis sa nalaing ka pay iti bokod mo nga lengguaje. dakis no inglis lang ti paglaingam kit dimo unay ammo ti nakayanakam nga lengguaje.
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ittip
3/1/2003 11:45:00 AM
ney, naglaingda met nga ag-english dagita nangsurat ti akin ngaton. dida pay la ngarud tinagalog no isu't mapanda ipappapilit nga saoen dagiti agdama a kaputotan. sabali latta met no adda kaunegam nga agsao ken agsurat ti english. dayta siguro ti kayat ni manang gloria a mapasamak kadagiti u-ubbingtayo. maymayat pay no nalaingda met nga agsao ken agsurat ti lenguahe a nakayanakanda. bilingual wenno multilingual, isu a dayta ti kamayatan. agsasabali ti mother language tayo, saan la nga tagalog.
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Al-alia
3/2/2003 6:34:00 PM
verbal la gayam met ti gakat ni gloria arroyu? dapat in black in white a ta no talaga nga matungpal. daytay pagbalinen da nga linteg ngfa aproban ti konggerso kin senado.
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Al-alia
3/13/2003 12:36:00 AM
ilokano kitdi koma ti mausar no iti kaylokuan
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Al-alia
4/12/2003 9:48:00 PM
ap-apalak dagidiay tao diay visayas region. kagura da ti tagalog. marigatan da nga agsao ti tagalog ta diay bukod da nga pagsasao ti ipangpangruna da. mas pay agsao da a ti english ngem iti tagalog.

no ditoy metten luzon uray iti parte ti ilocos ket ad-adun sa payen ti agtagatagalog ngem agil-ilokano wenno agusar didiay bukod dan nga sao kas koma ibanag wenno panngalatok. tagalog da aminen. uray yanta laoag ken vigan tagalog da metten. kababain payen.
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Al-alia
4/19/2003 9:39:00 PM
mayat amin
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Florimar
6/1/2003 12:38:00 AM
No siak lang a maysa, english wenno tagalog lattan ta isu ngarud ti nalaka nga basaen ken isurat. Padasem nga pag-ispelingin ti 10 lang a memestro wenno memestra ket di da agpapada ti isurat. Kaaduan ti ilocano ket dingeg sao laeng manipud unana.

No elementarya wenno nursery, kinder pay ti ubing ket mabalin ti ilocano ta isu ti mang-mangeg da yanta komunidad tayo. Ken no high school ken college tay kuman ket english en ta haan met lang nga ta ilocos ti paka-i-praktisan tay ti adal tayo no di ket sab-sabali pay a parte ti lubong ta ti ilocano nga talaga ket adventurous.
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Ernie
6/1/2003 2:29:00 AM
Idi addaak iti Elementaria diay ilimi ket talaga nga English ti isur-suroda
a pangpreparar kadagiti ubbing nga agbasbasa. Kuna daydi maestrami, malagipko pay laeng ngem nabayagen, idi early '60s, adalenyo a nalaing daytoy a pagsasao ket no kas pagarigan nga agdalliasat kayo iti sabali nga ili, Enlish ti maysa nga pagsasao ti kaadduan iti lubong.

Grade five ti nadanonko sakbay nga nagdalliasat kami nga sangafamillian nga immay met dimmanon iti daytoy lugar nga nabayagen a pagtrabahoan ni Tatangmi. Nasdaaw, wen kakabsats, nasdaaw dagiti american teachers ti kina articulate kano ti panagsaok ti English, maicomperar kadagiti immun-una ngem siak nga napan met nagadal kadaytoy nga eskuela.

Pagyamanak kadaydi nga maestra, natay siguro itan ta add edadna idin, iti panangisurona ti proper English uray ubbingkami pay idi. Kaasi ni Apo, nagturposak ti High School ken nakagun-odak ti Full Scholarship nga naggapu ti Educators of the Pacific. Ingaedko ti nagbasa ket nakaguodak ti kina Electronics Engineer.

Nanam-ay ti trabahok ita nga agdama gapu laeng ti pannangikalikagum daydi nga maestra, Mrs. Barba, Iti San Nicolas, Ilocos Norte, Central Elementary School. Pagyamanak la unay kenkuana ti nasapa nga pannakaadal ti English Dialect ket nakaigappuan metten ti pannakagun-odko ti educationko......

No adda mangngegko nga agsao ti Tagalog ket dillawek, aglalo no ammok nga Ilocanoda. Ibagak nga saanda nga lip-lipatan ti kina Ilocanoda ta isu ti tawid nga saan nga malipatan. Ammoyo, Ag Ilocano da metten no makitadak....Naimbag a rabii/bigat/aldawyo amin apo.....
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florimar
6/1/2003 3:08:00 AM
pada ka mammet a taga-san nicolas ka ernie. rumbeng lang nga agsao ka ti ilocano no ammum nga ilocano ti maysa nga tao. No adda tay ta ilocos ket agsao tay ti ingles wenno tagalog ket kasla dillawen datayo. Apay? okay lang nga ipakat ti naadal nga panagsao ti inglis wenno tagalog no adda ka ti ganggannaet a lugar ngem no adda ka ta ilocos laeng,por dios por santo ket makuna nga pangas didiay a tao.

Proud ak nga ilocano uray idi lang high school ak nga nangrugi nga nakabasa ti ilokano nga babasaen( BANNAWAG ) ta dinggeg sao ak met laeng aginggana nga dimmakkel ak.

mabalin ko nga makuna nga kaaduan nga nakabasa ti high school wenno kolehiyo ita nga panawen, ad-adda nga basaen da ti inglis wenno tagalog.. ngem no kadatayo nga adayo ta ilocos ket ad-adda nga kayat tayo nga basaen wenno makisarita ti ilocano no adda time tayo... Ana't makunayo? naimbag nga panag-basbasa met ditoy iluko.com kadakayo amin apo....



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Ernie
6/1/2003 7:43:00 AM
florimar, wen taga San Nicolasak ngem nabayagen nga diak nagbakasyon gapu laeng ti mapaspasamak ti lubong ket adda daytay panagkedked ti bagi aglalo no bukodmo nga ili ket adda met mapaspasamak uray idiay laeng abagatan.

Ania a lugar met ti nakaisad-sadam kaili? Addaka kadi ti abroad? Agpayso ti kunam dita ngato nga ad-adda nga basaen wenno makisaritatayo iti Ilocano
no adda time ken no adda madalapustayo nga pada nga Ilocano. Ngem no agin-i-Engligh wenno Tagalogda ket kas kunak ta ngato, dillawek. Dispensarem ngem napangas launay ti langada nga dimet ngarud proper English wenno Tagalog ti saoda. Nakababain pay no dadduma nga dengdenggen....

Pada nga Ilocano, saanyo nga ibaba launay ni Ilocano ta datayo ket saanen nga mapukaw,ta ti kina Ilocano ket naipatawid kadayo nga naggapu kadagiti nagannak kadatayo. Agragsak kayo ketdi a no adda ka ti abroad ket dua a lengguahe ti ammom. Manmano nga tat-tao ti kasta nga dual language speaking nga kunada ti English.

Be Proud Being an Ilocano.......
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Agbasbasa
6/1/2003 4:07:00 PM
Agkaramayat met dagitoy diskursoyo.Adda agkuna sadut nga agbasa dagiti ubbing tayo.Mabalin a pudno ken mabalimet a saan.Adda met nagkuna dependi iti aglawlaw ken inpluwensiya.Saan a mailibak nga adda met dagiti nagaed nga ububing nga agbasa ken agsursuro ngem ti sabali a banda awan tay basaenda wenno kurang dagiti libro a babasaen.Pangarigak laengen toy bagik, idi addak ti elementarya, kasapulak ti libro a geography ta isu ti pagesemak ken kasapulak ti English dictionary ngem awan met.Awan met ti maipaay dagiti nagannak kaniak gapu ti kinakurapay ti biag.Awan met ngarud ti library ti eskuelaan mi idi.Isu nga no adda homework mi idi ketkayatko met koma ti saan a maatiw, ngem gapu ti kaawan ti usaren a ket kutitak lattan a.Adda met dagitay addaan usaren ngem no innak bumolod uray biit laeng ket madida met ta kayat da laeng nga isuda ti adda homeworkda.Uray la agsangsangit idi ti kasasaad ko.

Isu nga ita dagitoy inted ti Apo nga anakmi ket diak kayat nga mapadasanda ti napadasak, ket ibagbagak pay kadakuada nga mayat ti panagbasbasa.

Iti sabali a bangir, adu met a pagilian dagiti saan a makapgsao ken makapgsurat ti english ngem saanna kayat a sawen nga awan ti adalda.Di adalda dagita ket narang-ay pay ti pagilianda.Datay pay maysa a nangabak ti world beauty contest saan met a makaenglish, ngem apay a nangabak met?Wen adda met nagballigi gapu ta nalaing ti english,ngem adu met ti nagballigi uray saan a makasao ti english.

Kinapudnona, toy ili tayo a Pinas a kastay kunada, the only English Speaking nation in the FAR EAST NGEM NUMBER 11 CORRUPT NATION IN THE WORLD MET, kasano ngay!
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Ernie
6/1/2003 5:00:00 PM
Apo agbasbasa, kastoy man ti mainayonko, agpayso nga adu nga nation ti saan nga makaawat iti English. Ngem madlawmo kadi nga ti worldwide adopted language just for the sake of basic understanding ket Enlish? Agpayso nga adu dagiti ubbing diay Pinas, kunak ta awanakon diay Pinas, ti awan mabalinna no agsapul ti libro man wenno dictionary wenno ania nga English written text, ngem adda koma dagiti library nga pakabulodan kadagitoy nga study materials. Apay nga kayat ti Pinas Gov't nga agusarka ti English no awan met resourcesmo nga mang tenneb ti basic skills mo? No kayat ti gobyerno nga dayta ti maaramid, masapul koma nga adda nai set aside nga educational fund nga mang provide kadagitoy nga resources.

Ti gobyerno ket isu ti ayan ti problema. Masapul ti pannaka restructure ti Educational System tapno dagiti ubbing ket madevelopda ti Bilingual traits. Kayatko nga sawen ket no ilokano ka, usarem ti ilocano ken English, no visaya wenno tagalogka met, usarem met dagitoy sabali nga dialects in conjunction with the English system. Ngem no tagalogto pay laeng ti i pushmo nga adalen ni ilocano wenno visaya, dakesen ta tallo nga languages, perse'n ti adalendan. That is totally wrong. Agsadut ni ubingen a ta ma confuse launayen.....
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florimar
6/1/2003 6:41:00 PM
ditoy ak lang bataan ita ka ernie. okay met nga nakaadal ti tagalog ta tagalog ti pagsasao ditoy. petrochemical plant ti ayan ko ita ket agyamanak met ta ammok ti ag-ingles ta adu ti kakadua mi nga british ken malaysiano ditoy... ag-depende amin ta ubing, family, ken ti society ti panag-adal ni ubing gagayyem... ni ubing maadal na ti ilocano yanta balayda, ilida... maadal na met nga umuna ti tagalog gapu ta mabuy-buya na ta tv ken ta iskwela na... kaaduan nga ubbing ta ka=ilokoan ket maadal na nga "nalaing" ti ingles(panagbasa, panang-awat, surat ken panag-sao) ta high school wenno kolehiyo... dispensaren yo ngem isu ti agpayso.. intayo agdamag kadagita is-iskwela ta ka-ilokoan ket adu pay ti graduate en ti high school nga di na ammo ti ag-ispeling, inglis man wenno ilocano....

awan formal education ko iti ilocano gagayyem( uray en "ngata" sika gayyem nga agbasbasa, ngem dapat lang nga pag-saom ti ilocano no adda ka ta ka-ilokoan (no ammom ti agsao gayam)..hehehe



kasta ti
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Ernie
6/1/2003 6:48:00 PM
Agsublika kaili ta ituloymo ti kayatmo nga saw-en....
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florimar
6/1/2003 7:04:00 PM
ka ernie, makunak didiay ta kasta ti proceso a panag-adal nga innak man napadas.. uray man kayat launay dagidi nanang ken tatang ko nga innak man ipasnek ti agadal ket makunkuntento ak lattan nga basta pumasa. Apay? Kaaduan nga ubbing diay ayan mi idi ket agay-ayam, ag-ballog isu nga mai-sursurot ak met kadakuada to the extent nga uray marab-rabii nakkon nga agawid... No karwek ti agsarita ket adu pay ti di mamati idiay kaaruba mi nga nag-raduar ak kon ti kina-inhinyero yanta MMSU on time ta indak kano met makitkita nga agay-ayam nga kanayon..

English ti ad-adda a medium of teaching ta MMSU except diay Filipino subject. Makunak ngarud, depende no anat kamayatan, ti nasayaat ket maawatan nga nalaing dagiti agad-adal ta inka iparparabur nga adal...
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Pimpiman
6/1/2003 7:15:00 PM
Nagasatka Florimar ta naadaanka ti nagannak a nangpaadal kenka ket mayat pay pagadalan ti nagturposam.No ikumpirak ti bagik ayna, pimpiman a talaga!Ngem agyamanak laengen iti namarsua ta saannak a binay bay an babaen ti innak panpannagna iti dalan.
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Ernie
6/1/2003 7:20:00 PM
Okay laketdi ta puestom florimar, pagyamanam ading ta nakagun-odka ti kasta nga adal. Adu nga agpayso dagiti ubbing ita nga uray kasta unay ti ayatmo nga mangpaadal kadakuada ket saanda met nga mai-ulo. Uray nakurapay man wenno nabaknang, no maigaed ti agadal, talaga nga malpasmo ta kalikagumam ngarud ti rumang-ay....

Adu nga ili ti napnapanakon ading, ket ti main basic language to communicate and understand each other ket English. No senyas lang narigat, ket no English, uray sangkabassit la't maawatam, adda daytay pnnakaawatmo ti sao. Isu nga nasisita ti English ngem dimo liplipatan ti ilocano ta isu ti mangted kenka ti advatage over the rest. Bi-lingualka....Naimbag nga orasyo amin apo....
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florimar batoon
6/1/2003 7:34:00 PM
Pimpiman, amanuen ka dita. Pagyamananmi dagiti nagannak nga nagbal-laigi(de adal wenno haan) despite all odds... Dakkel ti yaman ko kadagiti nagannak kaniak ta idi kano agbasbasa isuna ket magmagnada kano met, maysa ti pantalon na laeng kano. No aggapu iskwela ket ag-weave ti tugaw wenno katre dita ta isu ti ubra daydi ama da. Nakabasa isuna ti high school ken college ta ammo na met ti ag-musiko. Self-supporting kano met isuna idi ket scholar ngarud ti kolehiyo... pakakitaan lang daytoy nga haan da kayat nga mapadasan metten dagiti napadasan da idi.

gagayyem, adda kadi dictionary yo nga ilocano? sinno't author na? agsap-sapulak idi pay ngem pas-pasig met nga simple ken bassit ti linaon na dagiti adda ta national bookstore...
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florimar
6/1/2003 9:18:00 PM
okay met laeng ditoy no ikumpara ti sabali ka ernie..
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Pimpiman
6/1/2003 9:26:00 PM
Adda adu a talking dictionary ditoy dap-ayan florimar, agsludsodka laeng ti ilokano a saan mo a maawatan,he he he! add ernie, phil, flor, al-alingaas kdpy.
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florimar
6/1/2003 9:39:00 PM
agyamanak ta suhestyon mo gayyem a pimpiman. bay-am ta no adda nauneg nga sarita ket ipasak man latta ditoy dap-ayan.. nagitay ka-generation ak itan(1975 ak) ket adu ti sao nga di mi maawatanen kadagtiti lallakay ken babbaket en..

i guess, hear say mo met laeng a pada dagiti ammum(ammoyo) nga ilocano ala... so ana met ti maibagam kadayta damag dita ngato?
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Pimpiman
6/4/2003 3:01:00 PM
Agsubli tayo man diay topiko.No husto ti pannakaamok ken tandaan ko, adda bill nga inaprobran ti kongreso a ti pilipino ket isu ti nasyonal Languwahe tayo.No bilang agpayso dayta, ket maikontran tay kiddaw ni madam GMA nga ti inglis ket isu medium of instsruction iti eskuelaan.

Siak awan ti nangato a nagadalak ngem adda met kabukbukodak a pannakaawat.No isu ti kayat ni apo gma, a ket masapul nga amendaranda dayta a bill tapno awan ti lapped t pannakaipakatna dayta kayatna.

Idiay Kongreso, awan ti gundaway ko a napan nagbuya ti sesyon dagita nalalaing a pulitiko, ngem mabasbasa ti diaryo ken no daduma ket makita met ti tv,nga no agsisinangngolda ti sao ket puro met nga ingis ti ususarenda! Ayanna ngay tay nasyonal languwahe a pilipino?Ken tay pannakaisurat dagitay gakatda ken daddumay ket inglis met!Ket no adda tay piman agsao ti karabao inglis ket uyawenda pay wenno pagkakatawaanda.Ket no adda met agsao ti Pilipino ket no adda aginterpelate ket inglis latta met, isu nga datay agsasao ti Pilipino ket no saan a makasunbgat ti inglis a ket imamegdan.Isu nga adda piman pinanagananda ti komite de selinsyo ta saan a makasao a nalaing ti inglis.Ket no pilipino koma ti usarenda ta isu ngarud ti nasyonal languwahe, siguro ni mr.komite de selinsyo ket saan met koma a kasdiay lattan.
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Ernie
6/4/2003 3:12:00 PM
Ulitek manengagayyem ken kakabsats, ti English ket isu ti basic language nga pagkikinnaawatan, uray hapon, intsik, korean, guamenina, kdpy, idi nadandanonko dagitoy a disso nga pagyananda, Enlish ti isaomi, ket maawatandakami met. Apay ket idi early 60's idi addak ti elementaria ket english idi'n ti us-usarenda kadagiti eskuela sadiay ilimi.

Nasayaat ketdi ta bi-lingual tayo. Manmano ti kasta......BE PROUD OF YOURSELF, Florimar, Agbasbasa, kdpy....
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Agbasbasa
6/4/2003 3:36:00 PM
Umaykay ditoy man FBI Ken EPPEs ta ituloy yo tay Sinnangngolyo!

Di rabii, nabuyak tay resulta ti Miss Universe beauty pageants a napa samak diay panama.Ket dagiti finalist ket kaaduanna a non-english speaking, ket isu pay ti nangabak. Naimameg met dagitay englis speaking.Malagipko maysa pay ti Hapon a finalist ngem saan met a maka sao ti english.
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Agbasbasa
6/4/2003 3:53:00 PM
Adda pay mainayonko gayam

Diay America sigun ti pannakammok, awan met ti opisyal nga national languageda.Idi kallabes a tawen pinadas ti kongreso a sinango maipapan daytoy national language, ngem saanda met la nga intuloy.Ta adda nagkuna nga agbalin to manen a subject ti discrimination ket kontra tay anti-discrimination law.

Isu nga adda tay kunada nga ESL(Englis as second Language), isu nga no Asian ka wenno hispanic ket e enrolmo ti anak mo ti eskuelaan ket ESL ti ibagam ket aturgarenda piman.

Ken no agaplikarka ti trabaho, adda diay application form a kunana:other foreign speaking language, saanna met a kuna a dialect apay ngata?

Ket no met agaplikar ka ti US citizenship, masapul nga ammom ti agsao wenno agsurat ti simple english, uray siguro carabao english a ket mabalinen, saan aya kabsat ernie?
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Ernie
6/4/2003 6:05:00 PM
HEHEHE, adda met masapul a little english knowhowmo a no ti US citizenship ti pagsasaritaan kakabsats, gapuna ket ti maysa nga i questionda kenka ket Who was the first president of the United states. Ket no nasungbatam daytan, a ket uray saan diay sumarunon, mabal-balinen.....

Adda naka ay-ayat nga storiaek kadakayo. Damomi ti nakapaddak ti isla ti Guam. Ti airportna adda iti pungto ti isla ket ti destinationmi idi'n nga naka renta kamin ti lugan ket diay Aper Harbor it other end met ti Guam. Gapu ta attiddog ti isla dikami met la makadanonen. Nagsaludsud kam iti maysa nga restaurant owner ket inilokanok a sigud ta ammok nga kaadduanna ti Ilokano nga business owners dita. Sinongbatanna met ket inpatuldona nga nganngani kami makadanonen. Idi nakaruar kamin, masdaaw dagiti puraw a katrabahoak no apay met nga ammok ti agsao ti Tramorran ket inbagak met a multi lingual ak.....Agkatkatawa ti un-unegko. Ngem daytoy kakabsats ti advatagetayo...saan datayo nga mailako dagitoy Amerikano........
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eppes
6/4/2003 7:29:00 PM
ania kade met ti pammate yo kakabsats, language kade wenno dialect ti awag na iti kas iti iloko, tagalog, cebuano, bicol, pangalatok, capampangan, ibanag, etc.?
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Agbasbasa
6/4/2003 9:13:00 PM
Naibagak metten ti nanumo a kapanpanunotak dita ngato, ngem uray pay no kasta ibagak met toy adda a pannakaawat ken pannakatarusko kas tay nakunak ket nababa laeng toy nagun-odko nga adal.


Ti kunak ket adda tay pagdudumaan tayo no dadduma iti pannakaawat ken panangitarus kadagiti balikas, ngem uray no kasta adda met dagiti pagannurotan dagiti dadduma a balikas lalona iti umiso a pakausaranna.

Kas nakunak dita ngato, ti Filipino isu ti inaprobaran ti kongreso tayo a nasyonal language a para kada tayo Pilipino(Diak masigurado, napagsinnukat konsa metten ti Pilipino ken Filipino)ngem uray pay no kasta ituloyko.Inusar da met ti Language ket saan a dialect.Ngarud ti Filipino in general isu ti mausar nga pagsasao a kas simbolo ti pagkapilipino tayo.Isu nga no mapan ka ti abroad ket saludsudenda no ania ti language ti pilipino ket ti sungbat tay ket filipino.

No pay no kasta, adda met tay nakayanakan tayo a sao tay In Particular a kunada.Kas koma tay iluko a sao tayo nga ilokano.No agsaoka ti iluko ammodan nga ilokano ka tay distinction ditoy local level.Ket ti Filipino distinction ti national level.Uray sadinno a suli ti pinas ket agsao ka ti iluko ket ammodan nga ilokano ka.Ngem no mapanka ti abroad ket agsao ka ti filipino ammodan nga Pilipino ka, uray visaya ka man, bicol, wenno ilokano, Pilipino kuna da latta kenka.Ngem dita hawaii iluko kon sa met ti languageda dita? he he he! Joke only kadi.

Isu nga ti nababa a pannakaawtako ta daytoy iluko, isu tay nakayanakan tayo a pagsasao isu ti ammok nga tay dialect ti english.Ket ti pagsasao ti pagilian(Language) ket filipino.Tagalog idi ngem sinukatanda ti filipino ta saan laeng a maiyaplikar kadagiti tagalog no di ket aminen a Pinoy.
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Ernie
6/4/2003 10:46:00 PM
Nasurok nga trenta nga tawen nga addakon ditoy hawaii, kabsat nga agbasbasa, English ti pagsasao ti tattao ditoy a lugar. Ngem nakakaskasdaaw ta ditoy ti pakakitaam ti makuna nga melting pot of the pacific. Kayatna nga sawen ket adu nga kita a tattao nga agnaed ditoy ngem ammoyo nga English ti main language nga communication toolsmi?....
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eppes
6/4/2003 11:12:00 PM
ti iloko ket national kin international nga language. yanta university of hawaii ti manoa ket adda pay course nga maipapan iti ilocano wenno iloko language. saan nga dialect ti awag da no kitdi language.
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eppes
6/4/2003 11:26:00 PM
basaenyu datuy nga articulo maipapan iti ilocano language nga ad-adalin da yanta university of hawaii. sapay ngarod nga "language" ti kuna da iti iloko a haan mit nga "dialect" kas ibagbaga ni FBI?

oray ni dr. carl rubino nga meysa nga expert nga linguist ket language kunana iti iloko kin dadduma pay nga pagsasau iti pilipinas ("Ilocano (spelled ILOKANO in Philippine Orthography with alternate names ILOKO or ILUKO), like all its sister languages, is an Austronesian language of the Philippine type spoken by about ten million people."). kitaenyo iti website na iti http://iloko.tripod.com/Ilocano.html ket adda panangelaw-lawwag na sadeay iti ilokano language ken "ilokano dialects". kas deay imbbagak idiay bangir kinni FBI, dialect kuna met ni dr. Rubino kadagiti nagdudoma nga panangi-sao wenno accents ti iloko iti kada lug-lugar.

datoy tay cunak nga articulo:

Bringing Ilocano culture to Hawaii
Posted:3:57 AM (Manila Time) | Oct. 09, 2002
By Peter La. Julian
Inquirer News Service
http://www.inq7.net/reg/2002/oct/09/reg_4-1.htm


FOR the first time in its 94-year history, the University of Hawaii (UH) at Manoa is offering a four-year Ilocano degree program, which enables graduates to work in jobs where knowledge of the Ilocano language and culture is required.

Called Bachelor of Arts in Philippine Languages and Literature, with concentration in Ilocano, the program was approved by the university's board of regents on May 17, and opened to undergraduates in the spring (first semester which started in mid-August and will end in mid-December).

Prof. Precy Espiritu, of the UH Department of Hawaiian and Indo-Pacific Languages and Literature and the program coordinator, said the course was in response to the community's clamor for Ilocano-trained professionals in the fields of health, social and legal services, education and commerce.

Espiritu, a native of Ilagan, Isabela, and now an American citizen, said subjects in the BA program included Elementary Ilocano, an introductory course with focus on listening, basic conversation and vocabulary building; Intermediate Ilocano; Ilocano society and culture; Ilocano grammar; and modern Philippine drama and film.

Also offered is "Ilocano for interpreters," a subject that deals on techniques in interpreting Ilocano in English and vice-versa.

Ilocano natives

Among the instructors are Espiritu, Josie Paz Clausen, a Ph.D. holder in linguistics; Clemen Montero, a Journalism graduate and educational specialist; and Julius Soria, a lecturer in Ilocano and curriculum developer at the Farrington High School in Honolulu (Ilocano as language is also taught at Farrington).

They were all born in the Ilocos province and had come to Hawaii and the United States mainland for their masteral and doctor of philosophy degrees.

Ilocano is the medium of instruction in the Ilocano language subjects, while English is used in the teaching of Ilocano society and culture and Ilocano literature and grammar.

Students earn three or four credit units in each of the subjects that are conducted four days a week at an hour per session, according to Espiritu.

Espiritu, who is finishing her doctoral degree from an American university, said the Ilocano program in the university actually started in 1972, when several subjects on Ilocano grammar, Ilocano literature and other aspects of Ilocano culture and society were offered as electives in various disciplines like nursing, agriculture and engineering.

Among the best

There are at least 120 undergraduates who are enrolled in the program, Espiritu said. She said Ilocano was one of the best and most extensive language programs in the US.

The University of Hawaii, she said, was the only institution in the world offering a BA degree with a specialization in Ilocano. Students who will graduate from the course will also easily find jobs as interpreters in court proceedings, language teachers and researchers.

Non-Ilocanos can also enroll in the course, Espiritu said.

"There is a basic desire of Filipino students (mostly local born) to learn the language to communicate with their parents and other members of the Ilocano community," she said. "They also want to express their identity and show pride in their Ilocano heritage."

In terms of number, Ilocanos are the most dominant ethno-linguistic group in Hawaii and comprise at least 85 percent of the more than 170,000 Filipinos in Hawaii. Ilocano or Iloko is the major means of communication among Filipinos there.

Hawaii's Filipino (Ilocano) community has produced outstanding leaders in politics and the judiciary there.

State Gov. Benjamin Cayetano is of Filipino ancestry (his father was a native of Urdaneta City). In the 51-member State House, all of the six Filipino-Americans elected legislators are of Ilocano ancestry as are the six Filipino-American senators in the 24-member State Senate.

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Peter La. Julian, Inquirer correspondent for La Union, is in Hawaii on the invitation of the Gumil-Hawaii, the association of Ilocano writers in Hawaii. He is a multi-awarded writer in Iloko and a member of the Gumil-Pilipinas.
©2002 www.inq7.net all rights reserved
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eppes
6/5/2003 2:53:00 AM
awisek ni gayem nga FBI ta detoy koma mit nga agi post ta no ma-share na met ti capanunotan na.
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Agbasbasa
6/5/2003 11:13:00 AM
Husto gayam ta nagngegko nga adda iskuwelaan ti iluko dita Hawaii, nagmayaten! Ken saludoak kadakyo kakadua ti nasariwawek a panagsuksukimatyo a ket adda manen a maadalko.kastya nakunak ket nababa laeng ti nagun-odko nga adal ket bababen dagitoy naburayaboy nga impaayyo ket adda met la eng manen mainayon ken malawlawagan dagitay dadduma a nasipnget a kapanunotan a kas kaniak.

Ituloyo kakabasat ti agilawlawag!
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lamaw
6/5/2003 7:41:00 PM
ilocano language???? ilocano dialect??? sulasu! adda ilocano language adda met ilocano dialects. maysa lang ti ilocano language ngem adu ti ilocano dialects.
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Al-alia
6/5/2003 8:11:00 PM
Apay ngata nga ilocano ti kaadduan dita hawaii ket no addaka ti us mailand ket pati ilocano ket agin-tatagalogda....ibainda ngata ti kina ilocanoda?....
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Agbasbasa
6/5/2003 8:15:00 PM
Saan met nga amin al-alia.
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F.B.I.
6/6/2003 4:30:00 AM
Saan sa la-enggen gayyem. Baka madisturbar ta pay ida ket baka adda pay
masurun. Baka ma-awanan ta ti Tylenol? Pasensiakan ta saan ko nga ingagara
daydi panangi pababak kenka... Adda pay nasinit ket nagala big-bigla da
kaniak! The gauntlet shall stay where it's at? Nabigla-ak lang ta
kasar-saritak ni Padre Damaso baba-en ti panangsungbat ko met kenkuana
ti Spanish la-eng! Respeto-ak ta opinions mo ta isu ngarud ta daytoy nga forum ti naikari nga para kadatayo amin.
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eppes
6/6/2003 4:36:00 AM
okey laeng, FBI, respetarek ti kinapa-kumbabam gayem! agyamanac onay!
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F.B.I.
6/6/2003 4:51:00 AM
No adda mai-tulong ko kenka nga agi-Spanish, ket
mabalin met latta. I'll try my best...basta la ket kayak!
Willing-ak met nga mai-suro, kas tay panagin-pakunbaba
nga diak na-amiris yanta bangir nga thread.
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Al-alia
6/6/2003 7:16:00 AM
Palakpakan kayo nga dua eppes ken F.B.I., nasayaat man ti panagkinaawatanyo kakabsats...no kasta koma met ti aramiden ti gobierno ti Pinas nga ummongenna dagiti nasisirib a kas kadakayo nga dua ket pagsasaritaan koma no ania ti nasayaat nga aramiden maipanggep kadaytoy a topiko...Ala F.B.I idatagmo met a ti kapanunotam tapno maituloy daytoy a panait. Awan met siguro ti mapasagidan...
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florimar
6/6/2003 8:58:00 AM
naimbag a oras yo apo.. sumrek ak man ditoy dap-ayan ita..
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F.B.I.
6/7/2003 4:09:00 AM
florimar, sumrek ka latta gayyem. Naimbag a oras mo met.

Mayatak ta koman, gayyem nga Al-alia, kasta koma met dagiti
ag-toturay ti gobierno ti Filipinas. Kita-em ta Amerika, no
adda duwa nga kandidato nga agka-rival, ket no adda
ma-abak kadakuwada iti primary election ket mapan pay
ala manuen nga personal diay kinalaban na. Adu pay ti
ma-abak nga mang-suportar pay ti kinalaban na.
Kasta koma met ti Filipinas, aya? Dagitay kandidato
nokua ket ag-kompania day pay yanta kal-kalsada.




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florimar
6/7/2003 6:14:00 AM
ti panagkunak met gayyem nga F.B.I., ti pangrugianan na amin ti panagbal-baliw ket yanta uneg ti familya tayo gagayyem. Ta no haan a napintas ti familya a naggapuan ni politiko wenno awan sinciridad na nga mangbalbaliw ti bagi na para iti napintas a kasasaad ni filipino ket awan latta apo.. Makita yo laengen ti fiesta ta il-ili tayo, ti pasalip ti basketball. Kaaduananna ket adu ti kabkabil ta awan mayat a paabak ti pasalip. Awan pay innalamanuan na no malpas ti laban...
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Bonipasyo
6/7/2003 7:35:00 AM
mayat ta kunam Florimar, no nasayaat ti nakapandayan nasayaat met ti magapuanan ngem... uray kasano ti kinasayaat ti naggapuam ket kadagiti papanam met ket saan, ania ngay ti banagenna? Tay sida a naggapu diay fresh water ket no mailaok kadagiti sida iti baybay ania ngay ti banagenna? Isu dayta ti nagpungtotak, imbag la ketdin ta adda badangko, ta dagitay sida nga naggapu ti apgad umayda ket agisuron ti linoloko, ay saan a a mabalin!
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manggoong
6/8/2003 12:54:00 PM
Saan nakami a kagura Apo Bonipasyo ta no awan ni pada nga naggapu ti apgad ket di met agbalin daytoy boggoongenmi nga fresh water nga ikan....saan nga linoloko ti iyegmi, ngem pagsayaatanyo...Pinapanaw dakami idi 1991 ket kasta unay a pirak nga ipadpadawatmi kadayo a pagbiagyo ket apayen? Kasta ti adda sursorona? Agpanunotkayo kakabsat ta ti dagup ti it-itedmi kenka idi ket in access of $425,000,000.00. Riw-riw dayta nga dollar kaka.....Pagpan-panunotanyo nga adda ti Pinas...Naimbag nga tamnayyo apo...
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Bonipasyo
6/8/2003 2:59:00 PM
Mangoong, saan a sika ti klase ti apgad ti kunkunak ta saan ka met a nangisuro ti linoloko.Pagyamanak pay ketdi a ta innikandakami ti husto nga adal ken pagsayaatan, saan a kasla dagidiay immun una ngem sika., isu nga kasdiay metten ti nakaawatan ni kumparek nga Agui ken dagiti dadduma.Siguro no nasapsapakay koma nga immay, nalabit nakadap-awak met siguro ti haiskul ken ammok koma met bassit ti agsao ti inglis.
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burnay
6/8/2003 4:27:00 PM
Apo manggoong, apay anya ngay ti inkay impadawat kadagiti padak nga
Filipino? Awan sa met pakakitaan mi? Maymayat sa a inkay
kunaen "impadawat mi kadagiti opisyales yo" ta kayat yo ti agpabanglo
kadakuada. Inkay laeng pabpabaknangen isuda.

Masaok lang daytoy ta ti agbalin nga opisyal ket surot na metten ti
bumaknang a perperni. Maiyarig ko man daydiay wenno dagidiay opisyal/ es ta san nicolas ta
idi konsehal pay laeng ket awan met pakakitaan nga adu a lugan na. Ngem
idi immay yanta Istados Unidos ket inkay man kano innikkan yo ti sagot na
a "igatang mon to ti kayat mon apo..." ket nagawid baro met lugan nan, dinan kayat daydi volks nan...

Nasayaat met ta adda met bassit, bassit laeng nakakitaan diay iyu-umay na dita ayan yo no asideg ti piesta. Pangay-ayo kunatay man...

No agpapabpabaknang met amin idan puwera delos buwenos.
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manggoong
6/8/2003 4:43:00 PM
Apo burnay, dagiti pirak nga nait-ited ket naikari a para ti renta laeng dagiti us bases ditoy idi...No naawat ti gobyerno ti Pinas'en, awan to controlmi'n apo, ket no killo diay nakaawat, awan ti mabalinmi ta naiyawatmi met tay paggrebenganmin...Ti problema ket adda kadakayo, saanmi met nga inbilin no aniaman ti pakausaranna ket.....gapu ta awan met ti gubat wenno world crisis ti banda nga ayanyo, pimmanaw kamin a, didakay met masapul'en, ana't ita, kirabenyon a diay timmangken a dapo diay Clark ken katangriban diay subic bay....
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burnay 2
6/8/2003 4:55:00 PM
a ket adda ka lang dita pinas gayam ket kunam a pimmanaw kayo.... mangibabain ka kadakami nga ilokano!!! apay met kunaem a didakam kaspulanen? sinno ka nga agsao ti kasta? puro ka met lang nga ilocano.. sikan sa tay adda lahi na nga espiya" idi tiyempo ti hapon..
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FJGB
6/8/2003 4:57:00 PM
naiyaw-awanen toy topiko tayo apo... ingat laeng gagayyem
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manggoong
6/8/2003 5:14:00 PM
tinkio FJGB, agtalna kayo a buburnay, apay awan buggoong ta unegyon? Naasiak idi addaak diay subic kadagiti pada nga ilocano, no simangpetakon, pulotan, inum, ala ket kasta unay ti ayatda...aggapu ti uneg ti base ti iparaborko nga inumen, kalding metten ti partienda....mannakigayyemak kakabsats, ita ta nakapanaw kami, awanen, makasangitda pay idin, ngem awan ti controlko a ta trabahadorak met lang...burnay2, ti kayatko a sawen kabsat, aggian kami koma ngem pinapanaw dakami met ti gobyerno yon....gapu ta awan met ti crisis en a kas koma vietnam conflict, korean conflict, a ket sa pay laeng adda masao ni Pinas, why should we pay you money if you don't want us to be there....isu nga pimmanaw kami ta saanen nga importante daytoy alugar, daytoy ti diak malipatan nga inaramid ni Pinas, "you bit the hands that fed you", kayatna nga sawen, pakpakanen daka ket kagkagatem met ti ima'n a mangpakan kenkan"...ania ti makunayo kakabsats....
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FJGB
6/8/2003 5:56:00 PM
kastan sa ti ugali ni pinoy en.. ited mo ti maysa nga imam, a ket guyuden naka payen pati bagi mon.. crab mentality kunada... ala ngarud, agipaskil kay latta gagayyem, innak pay maturog.. naimbag a oras yo
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Bonipasyo
6/8/2003 8:19:00 PM
Apo FJGB, ilawlawagmo man daytoy kayatna a sawen ti crab mentality,nalibeg kaniak dayta a!
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florimar
6/9/2003 12:41:00 PM
Ka Bonipasyo, no iyawatmo ta imam a tumulong ket pati bagi mon ket iggaman nan, aginggana a matnag kayo a dua. Ta ti maysa nga guyudem lang koma ket adu pay metten ti mang-iggem kadayta guyudem koma. Kitaem ta crabs, kastada...

manggoong, ni pinas kayat na nga ipakita ti lubong a kaya na ti tumakder. Kal-lip-lippas pay lang ti gubat idi ket nagpa-independence en idi 1945. No koma ni pinas ket nanguray pay lang ti time a tulungan ni US( mabalin pay koma nga estado na ti pinas en) aginggana a makalung-aw, ay ket mayat koma ti nagbalinanna ti pinas appo...

Ammoyo kadi nga ti Pilipinas ti kabaknangan ti lubong ita, gapu iti kina-adda ti Deuterium na diay Mindanao. Di pay laeng na-harass ni Pinoy ngamin ta awan ti adu nga kuarta na. Ti Vision daydi Dios ti alluad na a nag-presidente Marcos ket pagbalinnenna a super-baknang ti pilipinas, ngem kasapulan na nga agkaroon tay pay laeng ti Nuclear Power Plant tapno kaya a protektaran ni pinoy ti bagi na. Daytoy ti makunak a di kayat dagiti dadduma nga addaan ta puwesto nga ag-succeed ni Marcos isu nga pinukaw da isuna ket pati ta Nuclear plant.

Pagsasaritaan tay daytoy no kayat yo pay apo.
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Bonipasyo
6/9/2003 6:30:00 PM
Mayat dayta panangilawlawagmo dayta crab mentality.Ngem ti paliiwko ading florimar ta sagpaminsan me nga inkam agkacrabbing, ken daytoy laeng kallabes nga aldaw adda dua a cooler a napno a blue crabs a naalami.Impadas ko nga inkabila isuda diay batya ta paliiwek no ania ti ikastada. Nalaka met tay ikasta da rummuar ta no narugian tay maysan ti umuli idiay batya ket agsasaruno da metten.Aginaawatda met ti ipang, diak ammo no guyedenda diay akinngato wenno diay akinngato ti manguyod diay akin baba.Ngem no diay akin ngato ti guyodenda nga ipababa apay ngay nga alistoda met a makaruar diay batya?Isu nga mapaspaselanak dayta kunayo a crab mentality.

Ti maobserbarak pay, no magnada ket pasikig, paatras ken paabante awan ti umiso a deretso a pannagnada.Ken maysa pay aggiinnipang da metlaeng gayam. Wenno kasta ti Pinoy isu nga awan ti rang-ay? Kapanpanunotak laeng dayta.Ne, adda pay gayam nabati nga linutok a crab ta inkabilkon diay freezer.
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manggoong
6/9/2003 7:01:00 PM
florimar, mayat ti sirit ta martillyo'm ta permi a napatangam diay ulo ti lantsa....saanko koma'n nga iriing ti "US and their intensions..." ta baka agpungtot dagitay pagyanan ti buggoong...Other than daydi renta ti bases nga topic of negotiations idi madama nga mapapanaw ti US ditoy Pinas ket ti potential na nga agbalin a Nuclear Power, but narigat ita siguro'n ta kitaem ti North Korea ket maiparit pay ti panag-reopenna ti idle nga power plants dan gapu ti possibility of misuse a kas panagaramidan ti "Weapons of Mass Destruction"..Dakkel koma a katulong ti Pinas ti high technology knowhow ti America, ngem daydi met lang mangipangato(double +)ti renta ti bases ti main nga kalikagumna....isu'n ti nangdoublian ni Americano ti Assessmentna ti uses dagitoy Bases...Gapo iti in explikarko dita ngato nga awanen ti major crisis around the pacific far east ket in decidena nga not worth the money nga bayadan ti nangato unay nga isingasing ni Pinoy Gov't...isu nga dipay timmalliawen idi Ag Pull Out kami dita Subic Bay....Maysaak nga napukawan ti trabaho, florimar, isu nga medio nasakit ti nakemko ti inaramid dagiti Officers of the PI Gov't. Adda met lang sigud nga sukat di trabahok, ngem saanen nga Electrical Engineer, Electrnics Technician laengen....NANAM-NAM-AY met ketdi a ta awanen ti adu nga responsibilidadko.....Saw-enyo met ti kapanunotanyo kakabsats.....
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Al-alia
6/9/2003 11:44:00 PM
pangyarigan lang dayta sao nga crab mentality.
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Al-alia
6/9/2003 11:44:00 PM
pangyarigan lang dayta sao nga crab mentality.
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florimar
6/10/2003 10:59:00 AM
haan tay unay umadayon kadayta topiko a crab mentality gayyem a manggoong, ta isu pangiyar-arigan lang dayta ti kaaduan. Naibagak ti kapanpanunutak ket ag-stick ak kadidiay en.

Kadakayo nga gagayyem nga adda ditoy dap-ayan, ana panagkunayo kadidiay yaman tayo a Deuterium ti Pilipinas?
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Al-alia
6/10/2003 1:27:00 PM
nangal-alaam met iti daytoy nga info, florimar?
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florimar
6/10/2003 2:03:00 PM
nabayag daytoy en. idi pay lang kano tiyempo ni marcos.. inyuna na lang ti nuclear power plant ngem daksang-gasat ta awan met sabali nga nangituloy en.
i-copy paste ko lattan ah..


Accordingly, the depth of the Surigao waters is almost the height of
Mt.
Everest (32,000) where deuterium is found.

.Let us pray for the success of this project. Remember Bill Hamon's
prophecy
that the Phil
will be the America of Asia by year 2005? Let it be done according to
Thy
will...."...and this can only be achieved if the people will learn to
humble themselves, turn from their wicked and impious ways, and seek
HIS
face...surely He will heal our land"



HYDROGEN FUEL AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PHILIPPINES


A SPECIAL REPORT
International Press Release

By: (name of proponent withheld)
Metro Manila, Philippines


HYDROGEN from Water was predicted by Jules Verne in 1874 to be the fuel
of the future. During World War II, Germany used V-2 Rocket Bombs
propelled by HYDROGEN. Now, Dr. Jacob Bigeleisen discovered that at
room
temperature or under atmospheric condition, DEUTERIUM ATOMS are
electrolyzed naturally out of water in the form of HYDROGEN gas. This
natural phenomenal process needs no expensive electric power consuming
electrolysis to artificially separate HYDROGEN from OXYGEN in Water.

What is DEUTERIUM? Deuterium is HEAVY WATER or HYDROGEN WATER without
oxygen. This is obtained from the deep trenches of the World and the
World’s largest DEPOSIT OF DEUTERIUM is IN THE PHILIPPINES – A big
deposit of 868 miles long, 52 miles at widest point, and 3 miles at
deepest point, replenished by nature 24 hours a day after Deuterium
traveled more than 12,000 kilometers from Central America to the
Philippines through the span of the Pacific Ocean when Planet Earth
turns
on its axis from West to East in unending perpetual motion.

USES OF DEUTERIUM

Deuterium is used in the production of (Hydrogen) Li-Hy Fuel now used
in
Canada, America, Germany and some parts of Sweden to provide fuel for
cars, trucks, jet planes, etc. including solid Hydrogen for Spacecrafts
Challenger and Columbia. Deuterium can replace gasoline, LPG, LNG,
Avgas, etc. in powering all types of internal combustion engines. It
does not emit pollutants or any harmful carbon monoxide and does not
cause any environmental problems because it is in the water family as
emissions are nothing but water vapor or steam. Deuterium as Hydrogen
Fuel can be used for cooking, lighting, heating, and as Heavy Water
fuel
for Reactors in electric power generation.

Why does Deuterium electrolyze out of water in the form of Hydrogen
Gas?
It electrolyzes out of water in the form of Hydrogen gas because
Deuterium is CONCENTRATED HYDROGEN with element symbol, H2 (Hydrogen
mass
of 2 as distinguished from H2O in Water) subjected to the pressure of
water mass at the ocean floor of about 10,000 psi or more because
Deuterium obtained from depths of more than 7,000 meters below sea
level
and at more than 10,000 psi pressure causes the oxygen in water to
disengage, separate and escape naturally from hydrogen leaving only
Hydrogen isotopes to combine with other Hydrogen isotopes in forming
Deuterium under pressure. And Deuterium under pressure, when exposed
to
room temperature or atmospheric condition, forms or electrolyzes
naturally into Hydrogen Gas, in the same manner that LPG (Liquefied
Petroleum Gas) and LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas) in LIQUID state
transform
into gas after fusion process with air in the atmosphere the moment LPG
or LNG tank valves are turned on or opened. By taking out impurities
from Deuterium, Li-Hy Fuel is produced by special simple process at
very,
very low cost known to this proponent and his associates. Cheap
Hydrogen
will reactivate all idled Hydrogen Based Industries internationally
affected by high petroleum costs, and this will boost food, chemical,
and
metal industries worldwide.

PROPOSAL TO THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT AND FOREIGN INVESTORS

Through intensive research and development on oceanographic data and
processes with foreign associates, the proponent discovered that
concentrated Hydrogen exists only about one centimeter thick in every
3,000 meters deep of water mass at the ocean floor. Because Deuterium
more than twice the weight of ordinary water, it sinks and in the
process, OXYGEN separates naturally from Hydrogen when the pressure
becomes about 10,000 psi or more. The usual ocean floor depth ranges
between 2,000 meters to 3,000 meters. With the Philippine Trench at
7,000 meters to 10,500 meters deep, Deuterium is naturally trapped
through the ages untapped by man through this day, replenished by
nature
through the North Equatorial Current Tidal Flow from more than 12,000
kilometers away in Central America to the Philippines hitting the
Philippine Trench DIRECTLY PERPENDICULAR – The one and only Trench with
the widest and longest resource flow of Deuterium in the whole world!

This proponent presented in March 1986 the Deuterium Project to the
Philippines and American Governments in his desire to help the People
of
the Philippines and its Government, by introducing an internationally
accepted production-sharing scheme. This is the 40/40/20 production-
sharing scheme. 40% of daily production revenue goes to the
Government,
40% goes to the Investors, and 20% is retained or set aside to cover
the
cost of security, operation, management, administration, salaries and
wages, materials, supplies, repairs and maintenance, and other
operation
costs.

The Philippine Government would not put in any investment funds but the
following:

1) Land and Export Processing Zone or EPSA;
2) Tax and Duty Free Operation, and
3) Security of Investments with Government Guarantee

There are several lands belonging to the Government along the areas of
proposed sites. The Law on Export Processing Zone can be used to
declare
selected sites as EPSA, the Law providing a built-in Tax and Duty Free
arrangements with the Government. The Security of Investments are
provided for by the Omnibus Investment Act, the Investments Law, the
Constitution of the Philippines (past, present, and proposed) guarantee
the Constitutional Rights to Properties and Due Process, including just
compensation. The Government MUST GUARANTEE enforcement of these laws.

Foreign Investors have been informed that all funds would have to be
provided by them on the following items:

1) Funds for Research and Development;
2) Mobilization Costs and Recruitment;
3) Engineering, Development and Construction Costs;
4) Equipment, Pumping, Storage, Loading facilities and other industrial
project costs

The 20% production sharing revenue would be set aside and be used for
Security, Management, Administration, salaries and wages, materials,
supplies, transportation and housing personnel, food, medical supplies,
and other operational costs in order to preserve and not disturb the
40%
production revenue sharing for each of the Government, and the
Investors’
shares. By maintaining this production revenue sharing ratio, future
disagreements and irritants are avoided. A built-in protection for the
Government and the Investors, which is strongly recommended by the
proponent on the basis of the ARAMCO exper
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Al-alia
6/10/2003 4:56:00 PM
diak sa mamati kadaytoy gapu ta:

1) proponents name withheld - apay nga i-withholdda ti nagan ti nangipropose? adu ti scam artist ket amangan no maysa daytoy kadakuada.

2) no adda daytoy deuterium iti Pilipinas, apay nga awan met nang-follow-upen? mano a tawenen manipud idi naipropose daytoy.

3) no pudno man nga adda daytoy, dagitinto man met laeng politikon ti agnam-ay kadaytoy a gakat.

maysa pay, segun daytoy a website, ti deuterium ket maysa a klase ti gas.
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laplap
6/11/2003 12:35:00 AM
nabayagen nga sang kabaga dayta ni Ernie Baron! dayta deuterium! ngem agpayso ngata! baka haan nga ipalubos dagiti multinational companies ti langis kas iti shell, petron, caltex, etc ta malugi dan no kua hehehe!
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florimar
6/11/2003 10:56:00 AM
di ko met ammo no agpayso dayta. ti met laeng nakadamagak ket kadagiti pada nga pilipino nga gagayyem ko nga adda yanta middle east ta isu ngarud ti ubra da met... nabayag met a talaga nga balita daytan..
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Pang-og
6/11/2003 4:31:00 PM
No kasta ket hearsy a ngarud dagita!Isu nga secon da motin kastay nalpas a kinunan ni al-alia.
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florimar
6/11/2003 5:36:00 PM
agpayso dayta ngem haan da laeng nga ik-ikkan ti importansiya.. ingkay i-search ti deuterium philippines ket isu ti maysa nga ik-ikkan da ti importansya.. pati dagiti NDF ket isu pay nadakamak da nga af-after an ti sabali a pagilian...
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Al-alia
6/11/2003 6:46:00 PM
florimar, in-searchko ket pasig met nga awan nagyannan dagiti URL a rimmuar malaksid iti tallo a webpage ti partido komunista. siempre usaren dagitoy a pagpropaganda kontra iti US ken Pilipinas ngem adda maysa a site maipanggep iti hydrogen water nga usaren a pangpataray iti kotse. daytoy ne!
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Al-alia
6/11/2003 6:50:00 PM
adda gayam nalipatak nga innayon. daytoy maipanggep iti naisurat ditoy baba. daytoy ti URLna.

Deuterium is a political satire that discusses what the Filipinos did when the Philippines became the richest country in the world.
It is written by Bienvenido Noriega Jr. and won first place for
a full-length play in the prestigious Palanca Awards in 1990.
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cincolaris
6/15/2003 11:53:00 PM
Reasons why the English language is so hard to learn:


  • The bandage was wound around the wound.

  • The farm was used to produce produce.

  • The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.

  • We must polish the Polish furniture.

  • He'd be able to lead if he would get the lead out.

  • The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert. [Triple whammy!]

  • Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present.

  • A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.

  • When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.

  • I did not object to the object.

  • The insurance was invalid for the invalid.

  • There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.

  • They were too close to the door to close it.

  • The buck does funny things when the does are present.

  • A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.

  • To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.

  • The wind was too strong to wind the sail.

  • After a number of injections my jaw got number.

  • Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.

  • I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.

  • How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?

  • There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple.

  • English muffins weren't invented in England nor French fries in France.

  • Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.

  • We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

  • And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?

  • If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth?

  • One goose, 2 geese . So one moose, 2 meese ? One index, 2 indices?

  • Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend.

  • If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

  • If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?

  • If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught?

  • Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane.

  • In what other language do people recite at a play and play at a recital?

  • Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?

  • Have noses that run and feet that smell?

  • How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?

  • You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out and in which an alarm goes off by going on.

  • English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all.

  • That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are invisible.

  • Why doesn't "Buick" rhyme with "quick"... huh, WHY ?

  • Alcohol and calculus don't mix... Never drink and derive!


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cincolaris
6/15/2003 11:55:00 PM
Reasons why the English language is so hard to learn:


  • The bandage was wound around the wound.

  • The farm was used to produce produce.

  • The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.

  • We must polish the Polish furniture.

  • He'd be able to lead if he would get the lead out.

  • The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert. [Triple whammy!]

  • Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present.

  • A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.

  • When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.

  • I did not object to the object.

  • The insurance was invalid for the invalid.

  • There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.

  • They were too close to the door to close it.

  • The buck does funny things when the does are present.

  • A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.

  • To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.

  • The wind was too strong to wind the sail.

  • After a number of injections my jaw got number.

  • Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.

  • I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.

  • How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?

  • There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple.

  • English muffins weren't invented in England nor French fries in France.

  • Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.

  • We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

  • And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham?

  • If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth?

  • One goose, 2 geese . So one moose, 2 meese ? One index, 2 indices?

  • Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend.

  • If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

  • If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?

  • If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught?

  • Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane.

  • In what other language do people recite at a play and play at a recital?

  • Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?

  • Have noses that run and feet that smell?

  • How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?

  • You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out and in which an alarm goes off by going on.

  • English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all.

  • That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are invisible.

  • Why doesn't "Buick" rhyme with "quick"... huh, WHY ?

  • Alcohol and calculus don't mix... Never drink and derive!


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Hawayano
7/26/2003 7:54:00 PM
Iti Hawaii, Kapakai ti ad-adda nga maususar!
Eh! brah, no like wut I said?
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Agsapa
7/27/2003 2:47:00 PM
Kas kaniak idi damoak ditoy England, adu dagiti nurses nga dida maawatan ti kunkuna dagiti British. Addaak iti underground (train station),adda instruction nga kunana: Lifts, this way (adda arrow nga agpa abagatan). Apay ngata nga wrong spelling ti turn left da kunkunak la ketdin, anta elevator met gayam ti lifts nga kunada.

Nagdamagak no adda comfort room da, nakatunganga diay para dalus diay Macdonalds, in explain ko... Ah, you are looking for the loo.
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Al-alia
7/27/2003 4:41:00 PM
Agsapa, uray ditoy America ket madida tawagen iti comfort room no di ket rest room!
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AA
7/27/2003 5:07:00 PM
Ditoy aynmi washroom.
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Ernie
7/27/2003 5:12:00 PM
Wenno bathroom. Agtipon ngamin ti pagdigosan ken paglatungan....
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Al-alia
7/27/2003 5:39:00 PM
Imbag pay kadagiti kaarruba kas koma iti Chinese, naglaka da nga umay ditoy ta umayda agiskwela iti English no intoy Pinoy ti umay nga ti rason na ket umay met agbasa, ma iturn down ah ta ammo tayo kano ti aginglish, inton napan datao nag pa interview iti baro nga trabaho ti damagenda ammom ti agsao ti Spanish wenno French wenno German? No saan nga naabolished ti Spanish, naaladak met koma siguro diay trabaho nga kayatko ngem diak naabotanen ti Spanish language, sayang.
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Al-alia
9/10/2003 12:18:00 AM
isu ngarud kadwa nga al-alia trulili deyta kunam
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wen
10/20/2003 2:08:00 AM
mayat amin
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Bannatiran
10/20/2003 4:19:00 PM
The present approach of formally suppressing indigenous dialects to be taught in the school system must end. Each indigenous dialect must be respected and encouraged to flourish. We must reexamine the fear of balkanizing our country if this approach is undertaken. By encouraging and supporting each ethnic group to strengthen their dialect, their respective cultures will surely flourish. If each thread is as strong as the rests, and if every single thread is respected for its contribution, the fabric of our nation will be stronger and more vibrant, and its future brighter. Empowered people will empower the nation. Naim-imas tay naluto nga mangrespeto iti amin nga ingredientsna ngem tay binogbog nga saan. The Philippines and the Filipinos deserve better. Agbiag iti Ilokano, agbiag iti Filipinas.
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yipe
10/20/2003 7:03:00 PM
agbiag ka bannatiran!
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Bannatiran
10/23/2003 9:33:00 AM
Also posted elsewhere on /23/03:

Kakabsatko anian nga ragsakko
Itay madanonko daytoy nga sangalyo
Pasensianyo man toy panagilokanok
Ta ania met kakabsatko
Kalpasan iti grado uno awanen tay Ilokanok
Grado dos irugidan iti Pilipino
Grado tres isurodan iti Inglis
Ngem nopay no kasta
Saanko a malipatan iti panagsasao iti ama ken ina

Rigat ti biag naysadsad ditoy Amerika
Awanakon dita Ilocos kalpasan elementaria
Numero ti SS impasagutda
Dagus nga trabako intedda
Trabako nga trabako awan sardeng
Irugi iti bigat, agmalmalem agingat rabii
Baglaketdin ta weekend laeng pay la idi

Agbasaka ubing kuna ni ama ken ina
Sursuruem iti Inglis para ti masakbayam
Kolehio innak nasumokan
Trabako nga napintas innak nabirokan
Iti Ilokanok innak nabaybay-an
Maysa-ak nga nayyaw-awan nga bannatiran
Agar-arapaap iti adayo nga kayo nga inna pagdissuan
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You're Invited
12/8/2003 3:54:00 PM
Filipino-American Christian Fellowship
proudly presents:
Christ and Company's
"A Star for Jesus"
A Christmas Play
Sunday, December 21, 2003
7:00 pm

Filipino-American Christian Fellowship
5601 Suite A, 66th Ave.
Sacramento, CA 95823

on Florin Road coming from Power Inn
passed Circuit City and South Villa
across from California Backyard
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saloyot
6/24/2004 7:49:00 PM
magsayaat koman no itloy tayo nga diskasen daytoy nga topiko? sigeman!
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